Posts by Muddy Waters

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Questions For Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

here are some tough questions designed to determine honesty of the witnesses you meet.. 1. is post secondary education currently discouraged by your religion?

2. does your religion teach, that with rare exceptions, only baptised jws will survive armageddon?.

do you believe jehovah will completely destroy billions of people at armageddon?.

Female Perspective about WTS, marital relationship & control

by Muddy Waters in

despite my user name, am female.

i was not born-in, began studying when i was around 20, am 50 damn years old now and have spent almost the last 30 years in that stupid religion.

but here are some observations, make of them what you will.

Hi everybody.... looking over my old post about my previous JW “personality” and perspective, and am now SO GLAD AND REFRESHED to be out and FAR AWAY from that horrible, smug, self-righteous JW mindset/headspace.

I can’t believe how superior you become in your own mind and how discompassionate you feel toward other people when you believe you have the ultimate “truth” and the only correct (“accurate”) knowledge. It makes me feel like I can understand other extremist groups like ISIS or Nazism, etc., and how they can be so unbending and self-righteous in their beliefs. It makes me wish that there is no religion at all any more, as I now see religion to be a system which divides and separates us from connecting with each other.

Am happy to update and report that husband and I are happier than ever, exploring the freedom to be ourselves, to become the real, wonderful, AUTHENTIC people we were born to be, and loving every moment of this precious intellectual freedom.

💕🤗💕

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In one sentence, can you pinpoint a single event that woke you up?

by Brian J in

my turning point: serving on a child abuse judicial case.

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Muddy Waters

There were moments of questioning and doubts:

- 1995 generation change,

- the (shocking!) allowance of blood fractions - whatever happened to “he who is faithful in what is least is also faithful in much”??

- the ridiculous Revelation Climax book, which, for some absurd reason we studied repeatedly!! and its heavenly trumpet blasts being convention resolutions from the 1920’s which nobody even remembers anymore

- various doctrinal issues that didn’t feel right (example, it felt like our door-to-door ministry was actually condemning people to death if they ignored our message, since they would have a better chance of paradise if they did not know or hear about the “good news”!!)

...

*** But the thing which FINALLY tore the blinders off was “MY BOOK OF BIBLE STORIES”

- I was going to give a copy to our dear little grandchildren, who couldn’t even read yet, and then I began looking at the pictures.....

It made me wonder what kind of men would put out such a terrible and frightening, graphic book for little children... and then I realized that it was, yes, approved by the governing body, most of whom did not even have children!! It made me realize that they were just making it all up as they go, that they were clueless and did not have any “holy spirit” at all....

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Personal opinions spouted from the platform?

by purrpurr in

have you ever heard some brothers own ideas and opinions spouted from the platform?

perhaps off brand or crazy ones?

some that i've heard is:.

Muddy Waters

Back in the day, I heard an elder telling the congregation that we shouldn’t watch The Simpsons... (bad and corrupting “association”)...

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Pillowgate - John Cedars

by CitizenofEarth in

is this true?

is this really true?!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.

Muddy Waters

What the .... omg....speechless..... I can’t..... I mean..... omg.... this is just.... I mean, what in the.... holy moly....

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You or Family at Uni? Bye bye Ministerial Servants Position

by snugglebunny in

kingdom ministry school.

2018 service year.

programme for congregation elders: file:///c:/users/michael/downloads/kms-tk18-e_no8.pdf.

Muddy Waters

Ridiculous. Especially when they put out calls for special workers at Bethel or building projects, etc., where they need engineers, lawyers, or dentists or other qualified professionals to do some free or grunge work for them!!

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Sister may have had a slight heart attack, do I text her?

by Xanthippe in

jw
friends

so my cousin phoned and told me my jw sister was taken to hospital with chest pains and it may have been a slight heart attack or possibly she's starting with angina.

now as some of you know my sisters and brother have had little to do with me for 29 years.

we've met at funerals, or arranged them, but i just thought today what if she did die?

Muddy Waters

Love the replies and responses.... you need to do what you think is best and I like the idea of coming from a place of compassion and kindness, and looking back with no regret ...

They are brainwashed, and caught up in a clever propagandic scheme of which they have no clue.... protect yourself, but I also believe that compassion and kindness ultimately outweigh and trump their dark, gloomy, sheltered, fearful, and isolationist viewpoints whether they recognize it or not.

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Leaked 2018 Elders Training Video RE: Elders Reviewing Pionieers

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhq5viughny&feature=youtu.be.

quite frankly im disturbed at the lack of love and compassion.

especially for the first sister they talk about!.

Muddy Waters

omg.

... do you notice how they make the sisters sickly or weak or old, and the brother vibrant and healthy and working hard on building projects? The sisters get more field service hours in, yet poof, away should their titles go, though maybe allowing the older sister to be on the “infirm” list, while the brother helping create valuable real estate keeps his, though he may be in for some counsel for daring to take a personal holiday ...

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